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  • #15195

    McChuck
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    Rock Creek is well worth the time, a class 3 creek if you catch it at a good level. I put in on D highway, just opposite a dilapidated white house. It goes a little over a mile of just Cl-II+ boogey water along D until you get to a low water bridge. Here the creek leaves and for awhile you are in mostly forest. This section is Cl-III with a 8 foot waterfall slide that looks like it ‘could’ make a hole at the right (very high)  level, although I have never seen it make one.  After one or 2 miles it begins to parallel Madison Co. 537 (?) and empties on Stout’s Creek, near a slab crossing on Stout’s. From here I would continue on down Stout’s to catch the trail near the Saint junction that takes you to the 72 bridge parking lot.

    The last time I did this, (7 years ago) there was some wood just down from where it leaves D highway that I had to walk around.  From 1988 to the last time I ran it- maybe 8 times- I never had trouble with wires or landowners, but I was always solo, and very quiet.

    • This reply was modified 5 months, 1 week ago by  McChuck. Reason: Somebody stole my anti-depressants...I hope they are happy
  • #15124

    McChuck
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    Johm- all I did was apologize. There was NO words spoken. We have had trouble there before, but I do think we have a right to exit the creek, move around the obstacle, and then re-enter, but someone, made that pretty near impossible. And again- why is it gone today?

    Kathy- You are 100% correct. BTW- thanks for you help and skill with the kids- they had a blast.

    • This reply was modified 5 months, 2 weeks ago by  McChuck. Reason: I am so glad I had a pre-technology childhood
  • #15094

    McChuck
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    Sarah, I haven’t done that section in a long time but I would expect there are plenty of features..

    The little saint is holding very well and should be pretty good tomorrow.

    Lower Stout’s will be low, but doable, I have done it at that level without getting out of boat. All reports are that the wire is Thegone. However, still keep an eye out as the lowest wire may have been underwater today.

    The run from our house will be doable but boney.

    People did Marble today- maybe they have an opinion, I would think still doable but boney.

    • This reply was modified 5 months, 3 weeks ago by  McChuck. Reason: Reintarnation- coming back to life as a hillbilly
  • #15090

    McChuck
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    Thanx Kathy but I am mostly worried about the clinic- we will have pretty high water by Saturday. As I probably won’t be there Sat morning here are some alternatives.

    Little Saint-Thompson Ford to Whitener Ford . 4 miles. Nothing more than cl-II. Easy shuttle.

    Little Saint to Highway E takeout on Saint. 9 miles but the current is Fast. Easy Cl-III on Little Saint portion. Cl-I on Saint. Shuttle is long.

    Saint- 72 to Fisherman’s. If you stay left thru Entrance, you will avoid anything serious. Set up safety for run thru Kitten’s Crossing as well as Oz. Solid cl-3.

    Di is bringing kids to our house to stay on our frontage on Stout’s. I have heard there are 2 kids groups? Talk to Di.

    Marble Creek= cl-III in small doses.

    Silvermines to Highway E- four miles, nothing but fast current and watch for wood. Easy Cl-2-. Long Shuttle.

    Fisherman’s pool and Silvermines pool- calm water with current features, eddies, etc. available.

    As I am guessing about 40 inches on Saturday be very aware of the dam for the Turkey Creek run.

    Camp Penuel (The MWA donated this year) paddle up-lake to rapids. where a creek coming in river right, joins Stouts producing very teachable features.

    Middle Stouts and Lower Stouts= probably dinkable- I have taken two advanced groups down Lower Stouts with great success and very happy students. WATCH FOR THE WIRE. As much debris as we witnessed on Stout’s this afternoon (Over JT’s 4 foot mark), it is bound to have taken that wire out- but if it’s there it is a hazrd even our insurance may not back. Di and I worked out permission to put in at the bible camp, if you see the caretakers= really nice people, talk to them. The wire is just down from bible camp. While we just got permission 3 days ago to take-out and cross the wire on land- it is brushy and difficult.

    Our house to low water bridge on Stout’s= 4 miles (?) Cl-II. You can take-out at the State Park area just above the meat of middle Stouts or showing respect and humility take out at the bridge. Don’t park there. Park on highway D.

    • This reply was modified 5 months, 3 weeks ago by  McChuck. Reason: I never worry about rushing, I justwait calmly for the last minute
  • #15086

    McChuck
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    BTW- we need wire reports for the clinin from anyone doing Stouts.

    • This reply was modified 5 months, 3 weeks ago by  McChuck. Reason: I have been doing crossword puzzles and today was a gold star day! The puzzle said 3-5 years, and I did it it 11 days!
  • #15083

    McChuck
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    With the river coming up it definitely will be necessary. I have ordered Di to do 72 down tomorrow (OK stop laughing- she wants to do it anyway.)

    • This reply was modified 5 months, 3 weeks ago by  McChuck. Reason: When I shoot with Scott Covington, presumbably the #1 marksman in Missouri, I always shoot first, then declare what I hit, my target
  • #15081

    McChuck
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    That green thing- is it used for making rolls?

    And as Chris said- if you drive down 72 from Ironton to 72 bridge- 3/4 of those people are related.

    Beta comes in= the current is fast just above the wires. There is not a clean take-out.

    Crawling under barbed wire has a high probability of damaging dry gear.

    I offered up many options that have a chance of working- he rejected, emphatically, every one.

    This “25 years from now”  opinion in no way applies to me. We need younger anarchists and socialists to pipe in. It is time for class equality!

     

     

     

     

    • This reply was modified 5 months, 3 weeks ago by  McChuck. Reason: If we don't change our direction soon, we're bound to end up where we are going= prof irwin corey
  • #15070

    McChuck
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    In thinking about this now for 24 hours what strikes me the most is Wooten’s inflexibility. He wants it done his way.period! Even when there are ways of pleasing everyone that are actually to his advantage. It’s a long stretch of wire and I would think replacing wire 3-4 times per year is a lot more labor intensive and expensive than simply rigging a way to pull the wire back when it is not needed.

    After this thought period I find myself favoring wire cutters.

     

    • This reply was modified 5 months, 3 weeks ago by  McChuck. Reason: I want a man who is kind and understanding...is that too much to ask of a millionairre?-- Zsa Zsa Gabor
  • #15002

    McChuck
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    There is no correlation but usually a good 2″ of rain makes Wachita and Brewer’s Creek runnable. Brewer’s Creek starts at Hanna Lake along route 221. Unfortunately there are now several houses at the put in making private property issues sketchy- a shame, as Brewer’s is actually a fun run- going mostly thru govt forest. The 2 sister creeks join very near to the shut-in put in off of highway M. The shut-ins is a class-III run, spilling into the Saint just above 72 pool. We quite often parked along the road and put in just above the shut-ins. Beautiful area, but then the 72 pool is 1 mile long (totally worth it to me). It is not far out of your way just to go and have a look.

    • This reply was modified 6 months ago by  McChuck. Reason: Computers= Old Testament Gods- lots of rules and no mercy
  • #13816

    McChuck
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    Di and a few others are meeting at 11 am to do the river. I am shuttle-cock. If I, or we, are there I would be happy to give you a shuttle.

    • This reply was modified 9 months ago by  McChuck. Reason: I am really upset that it took so long for someone to tell me "Patience is a virtue."
  • #13742

    McChuck
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    See you there!

  • #13717

    McChuck
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    Wow! Looks like a good group forming. Yes, the gate is closed. I am bringing my cutting torch.

    • This reply was modified 9 months, 2 weeks ago by  McChuck. Reason: Money can't buy happiness, but it's somehow better crying in a jaguar than in an Ford
  • #13708

    McChuck
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    Di swims at Farmington 11-12 and we can then be at river around 1 pm?

    • This reply was modified 9 months, 2 weeks ago by  McChuck. Reason: Aren't we forgetting the true meaning of Christmas? You know, the birth of Santa? -Bart Simpson
  • #13704

    McChuck
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    Jerry- Sofia, my granddaughter gets credit for closing up your car.

    For me this was especially a great start to a new year. I did the upper solo and played everything, even the big air boof at man behind the door, and all the 360 holes. At MS Di went with the group, and I took the grandkids to silvermines where we practiced rock climbing, and then I had the pleasure of drinking a beer with a GREAT bunch of guys.

    Happy New Year.

  • #13698

    McChuck
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    Be careful of the wire on Stout’s Creek just below dayspring bible camp. I believe it is still there. Di and I are going to be about around noon.

    • This reply was modified 9 months, 2 weeks ago by  McChuck. Reason: I always have the same New Year's resolution- to stop masking resolutions
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